Join Eli Weiss on Monday the 17th with special guests Dex Kotze and Pippa Hakinson for a riveting conversation about the ramifications of conservation due to the pressure of supply vs demand in #wildlife trading voted for at CITES. With CITES at an end, we have to ramp up and continue conservation efforts ever more fiercely now especially for Blood Lions. Pippa Hakinson is a large force behind Blood Lions and with an ever increasing demand in a legalized trade, we will discuss the arguments that a legal trade can out compete an illegal trade. Even with that being said, no matter how much we sell, nature cannot fulfill the demands of an ever increasing human population.